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Wednesday, June 5, 2013

Special Place in Hell.....

Cynthia Ruccia

      

There's a quote by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright that goes:




I'd like to take that one step further------that there's a special place in hell for women who advance at the expense of other women. And that's putting it politely.

At any rate, that quote and its derivative have taken up residence in my brain after watching Susan Rice and Samantha Power each take one more step up their professional ladder today. On the surface I should be happy. After all, the president took the opportunity to add another woman to his team instead of a man (that being Power----Rice was already on board).

But I'm getting no pleasure at watching these two women, both of whom got where they are on the back of Hillary Clinton. It is shocking to me how furious I still am with how Hillary lost. Reminders of it never seem to go away. Sometimes we can go through quite a long spell without anything happening to cause flashbacks. But then they can come fast and furious. And this past 24 hours have provided their share of reminding me of the ordeal of the 2008 presidential election when my old party, the Democrats, lost their moral compass and took leave of their senses.

My first set of flashbacks came yesterday watching the Tea Party people testify to the House committee about how they were harassed by the IRS. The implication from their testimony was that this harassment was done to silence their voices. It seems clear that the command came from further up the food chain than here in Ohio, Cincinnati to be specific. At the very least the tone that was set starting from the president on down created an atmosphere in which folks thought that this kind of behavior was ok. That flashed me back to 2008 when I and many others stood up against the blatant sexism coming out of the Democratic Party to stop Hillary Clinton. What did we get for standing up for a different point of view from the Obama minions? In my case death threats, threats against my family members, accusations of being racists, reams of hate mail and hate email, just lots of vile stuff. I shouldn't be surprised that this behavior would continue once Obama won. But with the current revelations it is amazing how little free speech is tolerated by this administration. If you think differently from them you are un-American and worse. So when I saw the lady from Alabama speak yesterday, Becky Gerritson, my eyes filled with tears remembering my own ordeal.

Today, I am reminded about these two women, Rice and Power, who stabbed Hillary in the back to get ahead. I understand that it is dog eat dog in this world, especially in politics. But what can you say about someone like Susan Rice who got her first real break from President Bill Clinton when he appointed her to his national security team and also later as an undersecretary of state? You would expect some form of loyalty from her as that's how the game is played, chits and all. Instead, Susan Rice was the first one to abandon the Clintons to whom she owed her career to get behind Barack Obama. It was a stunning stab in the back to Hillary. It was an even more stunning statement about how the historic candidacy of Hillary Clinton for President meant nothing to this ambitious woman who was willing to step over her to get what she wanted. Special place in hell to her.......

And then there is the case of Ms. Power. Another ambitious woman. Now I maintain that ambitious women need to stick together and help each other get ahead. We have not achieved any level of parity at the top of things. The dismal numbers speak for themselves. Check out the stats in the column on the right. Anyways, here we had in 2008 the opportunity to elect the first woman president of the United States, a feat that had it been successful would have positively impacted women everywhere giving women a great leap forward including Ms. Power. So what did she do? She joined up with the Obama forces and let herself be used as an attack dog against Hillary calling her a monster. Really??? Power let herself be the public face of a female attacking Hillary Clinton. Sure she was put under the bus after awhile for doing it. But now she gets her reward for her service to Obama. She may be brilliant----she may be the best thing since sliced bread. But she is another one who deserves a special place in hell for not only blocking another woman, but goring her to get ahead.

Let's hope that the post traumatic stress from 2008 will be stilled at some point. Unfortunately the events of the past 24 hours have made the wounds seem fresh again.

36 comments:

  1. Great, Cynthia. I can only add that people should read Noquarterusa article: http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/75985/jesus-is-rice-really-that-stupid/#more-75985

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    1. no one writes better about such things than Larry.....

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    2. I agree. And it's important that we know all we can about the women who not only don't help other women but who smear any who don't fit into their little belief system. Of course Hillary was a woman too and look how much consideration that got her.

      Obama used these women, who lack integrity, as human shields and women applaud that. I can't understand that.

      Once women decried positions men obtained simply because they had a penis. Now they applaud women who are promoted simply because they have a vagina.

      Pardon me if I care more about character and integrity than sex organs.

      Great article Cynthia. Keep um coming and keep us honest. Because if we applaud just for gender or race or party, we betray all the things we once thought we stood for.

      Although I am no longer a Hillary supporter and will never be one again, I too am still angry about what happened to her in 2008. It was wrong and wrong matters to me no matter who is wronged. Well mostly. I ain't claiming sainthood here. Not ever close.

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    3. yes kenoshamarge, the left is blind to the fact that they will smear all kinds of women they don't agree with in the most sexist of fashions and still act like they are prowomen. It is laughable!!

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  2. Madeleine Albright herself deserves a place in hell for her comments about Sarah Palin

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    1. That she does. Just goes to show you that talking the talk doesn't always mean you walk the walk. Hypocrisy is nothing new under the sun for women or men. And it was certainly hypocritical for Albright to smear Sarah Palin.

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    2. hypocrisy is not only nothing new---it is the norm. There's no shame in sexism in the U.S., and there's no shame of any kind in hypocrisy

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    3. And there being no shame is a damned shame. Was a time when someone calling you a hypocrite was a shameful thing. Now? As you say, it's the norm. We've come a long way baby, and not in a good way IMHO!

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  3. There is a tinge of grief for me. Any time I see the Hillary backstabbers in the news.

    I think there always will be.

    Stray Yellar Dawg

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    1. you're probably right SYD----so many don't understand. It wasn't that Hillary lost it was the WAY IT WENT DOWN. And it was the subsequent way that the Dems swept their misogyny under the rug. But that guilt for them doesn't lie dormant either.

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    2. You are so right Cynthia! It wasn't that she lost as much as it was the way she lost. Yet in a way it was a good thing. Because if my eyes hadn't been open in 2008 I might still be a mindless little Dem voting party over all. Now? Not gonna happen. Left or right you had best show me something other than some damn speech if you want my vote.

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  4. Apparently women who are traitors to other women are the only women the Obots are going to promote. Interesting that you think Obots have some deep hidden guilt for the way Hillary was put down in 2008 and for their rabid sexisim against all women running for office. I doubt that they have ever thought twice about it. Misogyny is who the Democrats are. It is deeply ingrained and they are more than comfortable with that.

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    1. The whole women's rights meme is pure B.S! The right of conservative women don't count. And as we've seen lately, the rights of any who don't agree with the Obama agenda are not only trampled, they are attacked by their own government. Are Republicans even perceived as citizens under this corrupt regime?

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  5. agreed, especially about S. Power.

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  6. Thank you for being a voice for women who help women -- Rice and Samantha Power feel the only way to get ahead is to backstab other women -- and President Obama likes that a lot.
    I am so disgusted with his "female" appointments.
    First he had to have Larry Sommers who said women are genetically deficient and kept Sommers in the White House for years.

    If Samantha Powers said one word against a black women would she have been promoted?
    No. Hating Hillary is where Obama is at and he just cannot get over it.

    WAKE UP! I will never forgive and forget the horrible way the DNC treated Hillary -- and clearly Obama wants us to remember that too.

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    1. Spot on, Ann. My thoughts and feelings exactly.

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  7. Ann, Kenoshamarge, and Bes-----it is beyond me why this administration only supports women who do their sexist bidding. Since the executive branch under Obama doesn't pay the women as much as the men and also has a poor record of having gender parity in the cabinet,and GETS AWAY WITH IT, who's to blame? I say that the media isn't doing their job. I hate blaming the media, but Anita Finlay is absolutely right in the way she apportions blame to the media. This isn't just the right saying that the media leans left (DUH!!), it is a media whether it leans left or right that is still too sexist by all measurements

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    1. They only support women who do their sexist bidding because that is the kind of women they want. Little drones who do as they are told and then get rewarded, like Rice did, with an office, a corner one I'm told, right down the hall from her lord and master.

      Rice did as she was told and took plenty of static for it. Now she gets her doggie bisquit. This is feminism? This is the sign of a strong, independent woman?

      Seems to me women's rights has been downgraded to the right to get an abortion. Once again, what's going on between the legs trumps what's going on between the ears.

      The poodle press that licks Obama's shoes certainly is not blameless. But for me it always comes down to thinking for yourself. If you don't, or can't or won't then they, the evil they can depend on you being theirs. And not in a good way.

      This old bag doesn't now and never did belong to anyone.

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    2. Hilary Clinton is a war criminal. On top of that she doesnt even have liberal views. She was in favor of the defense of marriage act and actually voted in favor of dont ask dont tell. Stop supporting criminals.

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  8. …[H]ere we had in 2008 the opportunity to elect the first woman president of the United States, a feat that had it been successful would have positively impacted women everywhere giving women a great leap forward including Ms. Power.”

    After Obama displaced Hillary you still could have voted for the first woman vice-president of the United States.

    If you are not comfortable with the thought of that, bear in mind your concern is not strictly about supporting women. And if you don’t care, and justify yourself with all the vile and vicious false narratives pushed by the MSM, ponder how it was that Sarah Palin was able to maintain an 80 to 90 % approval after being governor for 18 months – something almost unheard of in our country’s history. (You will never find the answer by reading Time magazine or such like stuff.)

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    1. I DID vote for Palin, and proud of it.

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    2. Anonymous, even though I did vote McCain/Palin in 2008, I disagree with your assertion that "if you are not comfortable with the thought of that, bear in mind your concern is not strictly about supporting women." I think there were/are many positives about SP. But, based on her own statements and her positions at the Tea Party convention (not based on anything MSM, Time, or any other sexist media outlet said) her views are too right wing for me.

      I know there are many who would like to ignore the issue of reproductive rights, trying to reduce this important right to insulting and demeaning characterizations. But, regardless of who or how many try to frame the issue as just the "vagina issue", and various similar descriptions, as was the norm for some Hillary supporters turned Republican in 2012, it is still about women's rights. It's about not having state control of a woman's reproductive system. To accuse those who recognize it as such, of "voting with their vaginas" and other such sexist drivel, as was repeatedly done in 2012, by people who had been part of the coalition of Hillary bloggers and supporters who prior to 2012, had maintained ties and continued to support each other, is beyond insulting. It's sexist.

      So, no, given the chance again, I would not vote for Sarah Palin, nor would I vote for any other woman who refused to stand against government control and oppression of women - whether their reproductive organs or pay checks. When people like Palin reduce the issue simply to "abortion", they diminish women's rights, and fail to respect women, in general. It's not just about a body part, or even a procedure. It is about rights. Women who don't recognize are guilty of "not helping other women."

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  9. Any women for president, just not these women! the "just not these women" list just keeps growing.

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    1. It isn't as long as my "not these men" list. What's wrong with wanting certain things in a candidate for president other than a vagina? Like character and honesty and believing in the same things that specific voters believe?

      I am NOT, not ever, going to vote for an uber liberal for president no matter what the gender or race. Nor would I ever vote for an uber conservative.

      Some women,just as some men, have the things I want in a POSTUS. Other's don't. Certain of "those" women don't. Nothing nefarious in that.

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    2. Oops, POTUS not POSTUS.

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    3. well the "any woman just not this woman" is often the refuge of soundrels argument (not talking about you kenoshamarge---)

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  10. All things being equal, you ideas make perfect sense. But in a country that has NEVER seen a woman president. Those Ideas may not be a fit to change that situation. Consider what happens if liberal women feel the same way as you do and moderates stay on their reservation as the liberals and conservatives do and the poles continue to show that male voters by wide margins in some cases continue to vote for male presidential candidates. The result is NO woman president in our lifetime.

    For this to change, some women somewhere are going to have to vote gender period. It grinds against the instincts of a people who believe in individual achievement and success via their merits but I do feel that women unifying across economic, political and especially ethnic lines is the quickest and surest way to achieve gender balance in the executive branch.

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    1. I look at women voting for women as grassroots organizing. The idea makes perfect sense, and it is my favorite go to position. But there's no denying Ryan that there are some flaws with the argument that need to be overcome.....

      I sometimes think that repition of the idea a bazillion times might help progress the idea

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    2. I think "women voting women" is a tough, if not impossible sell. Women vote issues. My hope is that millenials will push us over the edge to where choice and marriage equality are no longer hot-button issues, so we can concentrate on other things.

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    3. thanks for chiming in Amy. Women voting for women is a tough sell, but NOTHING is impossible!! As soon as you say that, someone comes along to prove you wrong. I may sound like Pollyanna when I say that, but history proves me out over and over again.

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  11. I am commenting as anonymous, but I am MaryPuma.

    Cynthia your words ring so true. My only comment has to do with Bill. Sometimes it appears that Bill is not on Hillary's side. He made a deal with Obama to speak at the DNC convention, and then Obama has reneged on the deal. The deal was to openly support Hillary for 2016. Obama has openly waffled, and in my mind, set her up to take the hit in Benghazi. The truth will come out someday as to what really happened in Benghazi. Bill, I read, is furious. Really? Hillary is hurting herself badly to take a back seat to Bill-Obama deals. She needs to have Bill behind her, literally and figuratively.

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    1. I have been frustrated with Bill of late as well. Too much brown nosing of Obama imho.....

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