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Sunday, May 5, 2013

Nancy Pelosi Praying For Hillary Clinton To Run?

Cynthia Ruccia



So Nancy Pelosi is praying for Hillary to run for president? Please excuse me while I remove myself to go and upchuck my breakfast!!!

I know I haven't written for awhile. I just haven't had much to say that would add anything new to this conversation of the past 5 years. I've even considered closing down my blog activities. However, I know that that is just empty talk because the future most certainly holds fodder for me and you!!

I am soooooo very sorry that I feel miserable about the first female ever to be Speaker of the U.S.
House. In the beginning I was really proud of her and excited what her new position meant for women. However, when the events of the 2008 Democratic Presidential primary elections erupted, everything changed in that regard for many of us.

You see, Pelosi not only didn't support Hillary, another woman who could have been at the top for the first time, she actively undermined her candidacy. I know, I know-----the facts show that Pelosi remained "neutral" in the primary. That alone, for a woman who supposedly prides herself on doing all she can to promote women, was a weak and imo cowardly move. She should have been front and center for Hillary, protocol be damned. But then when she was in a position to put her finger on the scale, she tilted it toward Barack Obama, ending forever any pretense that she was nothing more than an opportunistic politician.

To me she is emblematic of a certain kind of Democrat, one who is sweeping the sexism of 2008 under the rug. She also is sweeping the slimy, shady practices under the rug of how the DNC disgraced itself (she was a superdelegate in a powerful position to speak up) in choosing the winner of that particular primary. The DNC did all of the things that it bitterly criticized the U.S. Supreme Court of doing in Bush V Gore. But I digress.

These types of Democrats never could completely rid their consciences of their hypocrisy in standing behind their party while it committed these heinous acts. They could never quite rid themselves of their nagging guilt that maybe those of us who protested against these practices had a very legitimate case and maybe were right and they were wrong. So what are they doing now? :Praying to God that Hillary will run for president!!!! Puhleeze------too little too late.

I know that many who read my blog are disgusted with Hillary and wouldn't support her in another run for president. And honestly, those who feel that way make my point. Maybe, even though she's supposedly at the top of the polls, maybe just maybe Hillary's moment has passed. It was soooooo thoughtless, shortsighted, and stupid to assume in 2008 that "we will elect Obama this time and Hillary next time." If I had $5 for every time someone mouthed that twisted line of reasoning to me in the form of a platitude in 2008 I'd be a bazillionaire. What garbage!!!! The reality is that who can ever assume what the future will hold? No one used that reasoning about Obama. All I ever heard is that the reason he ran is that his moment had arrived and he needed to take advantage of it. But the very same people who bought into this piece of rhetoric completely abandoned this logic when it came to Hillary.

A new poll came out this past week showing that at last Americans are ready to elect a woman president. We shall see. It is just as plausible that Hillary won't run as if she will. The female bench, contrary to popular opinion, is weak on the Democratic side. It is actually better on the Republican side. We'll see if those same people who are ready to elect a woman really mean what they say. I believe that there were alot of guilty consciences who responded to that poll. We'll see how far a guilty conscience will get you.......




38 comments:

  1. There are no words. At least not any that I can post here...

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  2. Yes we are ready for a woman to be President of the US, BUT that woman is NOT Hillary. Benghazi will stick like glue!

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    1. we shall see about the Benghazi affair----it certainly looks bad

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  3. Pelosi was not neutral. Her PAC was funneling money to Obama. So were the PAC's of the other DNC higher ups. Follow the money and you will see where people's true loyalties lie.

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    1. thanks for this comment------this is all true!!

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  4. I've passed the baton to get a woman elected POTUS to my granddaughter. She'll be two this summer so she might just be successful. I'll teach her it's her right to have the same expectations as her brother, to be strong mentally, emotionally, and physically, and that the world is waiting or her. Her mom is all of those things, but it's been my observation that political zeal usually skips a generation. But as far as working to get a woman in the White House myself, I'm done. And it's OK. There's peace in acceptance that I'm not likely to see it happen. Based on average life spans, I have another 5 or 6 presidential elections, and we still haven't had an Hispanic man, an Asian man, a Jewish man, and an out of the closet gay man. There are too many "historic firsts" before we get to a woman. I don't believe the polls that say we're ready for a woman. A quick glance through the comments directed at women in almost any political blog, right or left, should be enough to make anyone question them.

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    1. Agree 100%. I'm done too. Hopefully, my daughter (age 9) will help make it happen some day, but I think the media is just going to whip this up to engerize people for nothing. It is a story for the media to get ratings. Right now, my engery is dedicated solely to my kids ....and my career, which helps support my kids.

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    2. samanthasmom and anonymous, I understand that you're done. The events of 2008 were certainly enough to discourage anyone. And I'm thrilled that you're going to empower your grandchildren!!! I don't have any of those yet :(.

      I must be Pollyanna, but I think that we WILL see a woman president in our lifetimes!!!! It should have been in 2008, but who knows what the future will hold? I sure hope you are wrong about the hispanic, Jewish, asian, etc men. A big raspberry to that happening!!!!

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  5. Cynthia,

    Glad you are back! Totally agree with what you have written. Unlike some here, though, I cannot give up on getting more women of all stripes into political office. If Hillary decides to stand up against the gauntlet and run again for President, then I am "all in". I believe it is my duty, as a woman.

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    1. Thanks Anonymous!!Your view mirrors my own. Whoever that woman is, I'm all in!!!!

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  6. Cynthia--
    If Pelosi were a black man, she'd be Jeremiah Wright.

    I feel no sense of pride for her....and none, now, for Hillary.
    We needed a woman in 2008 who would stand up to the good ol' boy system and say "If you don't nominate a woman, I'm outta here, and will form my own party-The Women's Party, which WILL nominate a woman."
    Sorry, but Hillary was a "good little girl" and stepped aside so that the menfolk could continue to run things.
    So what's the difference between Hillary and a man---She has better looking pants-suits. She is one of them, these good ol' boys, and what's worse, WANTS to be one of them...and wants to please them, at our expense.
    Well, a pox on all of their houses.
    Thank you for the post, Cynthia. And bless you for hanging in there.

    p.s. I LOVE men....but don't want to live in a patriarchy. And neither does my sweet husband!

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    1. a pox on all their houses indeed!!! Thanks for your kind words....

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    2. I'm with you Cindi!

      I want a woman in the White House. But I won't vote for a woman just because of her gender. I've lost all respect for Hillary Clinton. Because of that I could not possibly vote for her. Not if I want to continue to respect myself!

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  7. Cynthia, Welcome back! No, of course, Ms. Pelosi was not neutral. As noted, she committed a number of overt acts to make Hillary drop out and offered up lots of sound bites during the primary to undermine Hillary at every turn. The idea that all this is being swept under the rug now that they need her is disgusting.

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    1. Thanks Anita for clarifying Pelosi's actions. awful awful awful stuff......

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  8. We had better all pray that all primary votes will count this time. That the Dems won't throw out all the votes and voters it doesn't like. And that they will not throw primary candidates and supporters under the bus!

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    1. there's no more room under the bus. It filled up a long time ago!!

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  9. Yes, I sense a lot of disgust from women in the US.

    Benghazi should bury Obama. From disclosures today it should be PROOF that
    the campaign to re-elect Obama was running our country.

    Obama preached for 2011 "Al Qaeda's on the run."
    Truth be told Al Qaeda was and is still strong terrorist influence, and
    Susan Rice and others lied that Benghazi was just a demonstration that got out of hand.

    Yes -- Obama will blame Hillary -- and never accept responsibility for his own mis-deeds.
    Benghazi had to fit Obama's campaign mantras.

    Obama also said during campaign that real estate was better, but thousands still lost their homes and more.

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  10. Thank you, Cynthia. I hid this post in December 2008 when Hillary accepted SOS and recently took it out of hiding when Pelosi made that remark. Look in the comment thread at the story of a loyal Hillary delegate from Arkansas. She just posted this tonight. I have heard stories like this from other Hillary delegates, This one is the saddest because it is Arkansas, because of what happened there, and because those of us who recorded the vote from CSPAN did not get to see the A states.

    http://still4hill.com/2008/08/28/the-bogus-roll-call-vote-in-denver/#comment-41333

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    1. that was one God-awful time Still4Hill. It makes me just as angry now as it did then.

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  11. I think the "Hillary leads poll" story is just more media BS. I'm hoping for a Republican woman to be the first woman President. The Dems who sabotaged Hillary, used sexism against her and corrupted the primary process to install Obama have more power now than they did in 2008. They consider the Obama presidency and re-election validation of their methods. Yeah they are eager to cleanse the perception of sexism from themselves but not so eager that they will nominate a woman for President. They are just using this sort of story to rally women the way they use abortion rights to manipulate women. I don't even listen to or consider anything these Democrat hosers say any longer. They and the media are a bunch of sexist liars.

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    1. wow---I hadn't thought of it that way Bes----I think you're on to something!!!!

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    2. Couldn't agree more Bes. You took the words right out of my keyboard!

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  12. Glad you are back. I was wondering. Everything you say here I agree with. I will post your comments on our blog again. Hillary will get nailed for Benghazi. But you get in the trenches with pigs, you get dirty. She knew better. The Benghazi story will come out. It is impeachable offenses. Obama will need a scapegoat.

    Pelosi makes me puke. To think that I cried when she became Speaker. I am ashamed of my actions. Never again, what a fool I was.

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  13. Yes, there are more women in the Republican bench, but not any that people could actually vote for.

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    1. what a strange statement!! Lots of people have voted for the Republican women governors. Lots of people have voted for Congresswoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers. Someone like Condi Rice would have universal appeal. Just to name a few.......

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    2. It's not a strange statement--just sparse. To fill in a bit more: I meant on a national level. Yes, people in their own states voted for them. I am also considering how far these women have gone out of the mainstream to ingratiate themselves with the right wing money and pundits.

      Condi? Because 3000 dead Americans that "no one could have predicted" is somehow not as big a deal as 4 volunteers who chose to go to Benghazi.

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    3. well, we're back on different and very familiar footing here. You will never find the "perfect" woman just as you will never find a "perfect" man to be president. Condi's remarks are no more heinous than Hillary Clinton saying "What difference does it make?" If you don't like someone you will find any excuse not to support them.

      The left always accuses the right of being in thrall to the far right. It is boilerplate that imho has become meaningless. The same can be said of the right's accusations of the left. These particular arguments, no offense SophieCT, are rather shallow. They mask what the real arguments are.

      Are we arguing about the size of government, the social issues, monetary policy? Those can be interesting discussions. The discussion of how heinous either the right or left is as a general rule leaves me cold.

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    4. Thank you Cynthia for pointing out the hypocrisy of so many, left and right. Their side must be forgiven it's errors while the other side must be excoriated for theirs. Narrow minded AND dishonest.

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    5. Cynthia, I'm astonished that you would jump on that bandwagon and take Hillary's comment out of context.

      Still, when over 20 state legislatures (Republican legislatures) enact laws to take away rights from women, you have to notice a pattern.

      And I never understood the "smaller government" meme. It's a meaningless statement. How small? Small enough that they cannot enforce the laws on the books? Small enough to make way for the corporations that will inevitably fill the void?

      Anyone paying attention knows I have my arguments with the Left, but the Right hasn't made any sense since Reagan.

      I have a different opinion, therefore I am narrow-minded and dishonest--just great. Exactly the kind of thing that makes people turn away in disgust.

      By the way, I was a big fan of Christine Whitman and her own party marginalized her. Feign shock!

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    6. both of the parties marginalize women in their own way.

      SophieCT----I love talking with people with different points of view. I do it all of the time. No need to get peevish about it. I just prefer doing it without the name calling. You make some good points, but I am reacting to the emotion flying off the page, not the POV.

      Small government is an idea worthy of discussion. We've been debating that as long as we've been a country.

      And this blog has been completely devoted to defining the whole idea of "women's right" which since 2008 imho has needed a wholesale redefinition.

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    7. What name calling? I didn't call anyone any names (though others here who you agree with did and you said nothing). I get it. Take care.

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    8. @sophieCT
      I'm not even going to address your points. Your passive aggressive victim playing is tired and boring. We have adult conversations here so if you are leaving I say good riddance!

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  14. Thanks kenoshamarge-----always love hearing what's on your mind!!!!

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  15. Thanks for the update. I view Nancy's declaration for the possibility of Hillary in 2016 as:
    "Things did not turn out for me w/Bo as President as I had hoped"!
    Oopps... country ruined...
    Ugh
    BTW:
    If there are any PUMA's here, our anniversary is coming up...how about a conference call gathering?
    TpT?NY

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  16. Cynthia, you need to front page this: http://www.jaimemoorephotography.com/2013/05/09/not-just-a-girl/

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